A mass teleport would likely be problematic because it would interfere with the characters main timelines I think.

While waking up from the dream idea is cool, I was reading through everyones responses and I'm realizing that that is pretty much exactly like the Future plot from before, or at least how everyone woke from that. I hate to suggest it again (but I didn't notice anyone objecting before), but I really do like the idea of an alternate timeline seperate from the main timeline in the style of Age of Apocolapyse

. Then when it ends the characters from the future timeline manage to warn our characters or maybe warn Seb or whoever? I think thats a little more impacting, so the characters will actually believe it and maybe want to join sebs cause or what have you.

*would not dream of angry so illustrious of a Calleycat* Sorry Ms. Calley. I couldn't resist.

As for the Alternate Timelines, personally, I prefer the dream sequence. It fits much easier and many of the people were not here for the first future plot so this will be a new experience (as it will be for me). Suddenly waking up from a dream just feels much easier than working with alternate times. When they wake up from the dream, then they will know the warnings anyway. In my opinion it just seems easier this way. Good suggestion though Emerald.

We could do something that blends both approaches. Say have it be an alternate timeline that a mutant in our normal timeline is viewing. When the time comes for the plot to end that mutant can coordinate with a telepath or other psychic of some sort to send out the experiences of each character out to their counterpart in this timeline. The warning still exists, doesn't interfere with the the normal timeline, and should be just as easy as 'waking up' from a dream sequence.

...That actually works out really well and since it's the age of sebastian that way, it makes sense. Thats a great way of fusing the ideas Dahlia.

I'd just like to see everyone have the opportunity to keep memories from the Grim Plot, if they want too--so something along the lines of a wake up, that affords everyone that chance, is what I'd like to see. Plus, something simple to play. As someone who RPed in the original Future Plot, I'm not too concerned with re-using the dream set up: after all, the same unnamed NPC who sends warnings of horrid futures to us is still afoot, and if something even worse than the last Future Plot is about to go down, I think it makes sense for him/her to step in to change the course of events once more. Plus, only a handful of current players were around for the original Future Plot, so as Jorge pointed out, this will be new to most people. Something like Dahlia suggested could work, but it would complicate things, and I don't really see a reason why--the "and then we all wake up" framework is simple, elegant, and further hinting at that elusive future-dreaming NPC's presence. *is actually thinking of turning him of one of his family members with a weakened version of the power into a PC somewhere down the line*

The difference between this plot and the last future plot is in the substance of the future: the awesome alternate post-apocalyptic setting, as opposed to the still rather normal (if not-so-great) future of the original future plot. This is on a whooole 'nother level, and I'm not concerned about it being unoriginal in the MROverse.

*tucks on Mod hat to make this one official:*

Hello, Grim Plotters--

After weighing things out on the Mod Board, the Mods have decided that power growths will not be allowed for the Grim Plot.

However, we do think it makes sense for characters to be stronger in the future--so essentially, feel free to pretend that your Grim Plot characters have earned 10 extra attribute points in the intervening years which you can distribute in any way you want. Ever wondered what your character would be like with a 100 foot range instead of a 20 foot one? With three years of apocalypse-hardened mutation finesse? Go ahead and imagine your character's powers as bigger, badder, and better in this alternate future.

Anyone with questions on this, do feel free to ask us.

PS: No, you don't need to send us attribute profiles for this plot--just pretend you've got the 10 points, and update things in your imagination. We trust yah.

[/official Mod Team posting]

I don't really care either way about the set up. Just offering an alternative setup for those who are bothered by reusing the wake up. I like it either way.

Summary of ideas thus far:

State of the city:

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State of the rest of the country/ world:

Woot! Well Sebby shall have his Promise Keeper at his side enforcing the loyalty of the masses. And perhaps stirring a little rebellion in the ranks as well. Maybe.

Question on the free 10 AoS attribute points. I still have 10 left from charecter creation, would I be able to spend all 20 in AoS?

Calley: Twins. One has the power to make people dream, but can't use it; the other has the ability to kind of turn on the first's power, so they both have to be cooperating for anything to happen.

...For power-type questions to the mods, can I just ask or is that another thing that has to be emailed? Because I really don't know if/how what I was thinking of for Allison might be counted in that.

And I really prefer the dreaming idea; I think it'd be more fun to write Allison actually having the memories (however faint or jumbled or broken they might be) than someone just showing up and telling her about it.

And... oh! We keep assuming that this would be a warning. Aren't there at least a few characters that might prefer the apocalyptic setting, and instead of being warned off, react by working toward it?

Add on to ideas:

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Answer to questions:

Okay then, about Allison's power in absurd detail:

Any "power growths" Allison might have (Grim future or actual future) wouldn't be growths, so much as the realization that what she's been paranoidly avoiding doing because it might hurt someone could be deliberately done to hurt people. Specifically, when moving ink through anything delicate, such as nerves, it will disturb said delicate thing, so she could sort-of-blind people by pushing ink into their eyes (not destroying vision altogether, but making it so blurry it's nearly useless if done to both eyes; she's done this to one of her own eyes accidentally in her history), or potentially kill them by pushing ink through sufficiently vital parts of their brain. (Causing pain by moving ink through skin and provoking the nerves there she's already done.) Moving ink through the spine I'm not sure if it would paralyze or just cause pain or what, so I'm kind of ignoring that option. Not messing with nerves, she could use toxic ink as poison by moving it into someone's veins (or nontoxic ink, if she had enough of it and enough time to get it all in, though that'd probably require the person she was trying to kill already being knocked out or tied up, so just cutting their throat would probably be easier). I'm sure none of these would really count as increases in power, but they aren't really finesse either, more like a loss of plot-induced ditziness/blind spot. I really have trouble imagining her not figuring out that what can hurt her can also hurt other people in an apocalyptic future, unless I give her brain damage or something. So, since I have been told any of that would OOCly be a power growth, and it's not really attribute point stuff, does 'no power growths in the Grim future' apply to it as well?

Just watching from the sidelines here, but if I may?

I have no problem with the Amazons. Its a logical idea and a fun one. But I think having a moving bone castle is a tad bit over the limit. I mean, if one thinks about it, no one else could ever raid from it. They get in, from what I gather, wouldn't be hard for Isabel to just seal them off and proceed to fill said room with bone spikes. Instant deathtrap. Plus with the sheer size of the thing, damaging it long term would be a tough thing too, if one considers how fast Isabel has managed to replace bone weapons in the past.

I'm just voicing a concern. The castle seems a little much and sways the balance in the fight for supplies towards the Amazons. Now, I fully expect to have an avalanche descend upon me for this so...have at it.

Just one minor point to make and that is that Sky is planning on being with the Amazons and not the ferals. Currently its just Chase and Amber confirmed for the ferals and possibly IM's second if he gets it approved in time for the plot. Aside from that, much love for the whole plot <3