I love the rabbit mutant rabbit hole dropping idea. Also an interesting twist if death in wonderland is a "good" thing since that would be how you wake up. If this is everyone's dreamstate and people are stuck asleep, what is happening in the real world? Are people just passed out in the street? Or are people missing because the rabbit mutant dropped their bodies into the dream? Either option has the potential to pacify mutants. Aaaaand possibly freak out those who don't get into the dream.

As earlier specified, it would take place over the course of a night, so once pulled into the dream time would pass as normal on the outside, but at an accelerated rate on the inside, so although it may feel like a long time in the dream, it would actually only be about 12 hours, or less. And yes, the whole freaking people out thing could be interesting, or we could put the spin on it that it goes unnoticed in general by most people, mistaken for simple sleep, because the dreamers could then have conflict about whether or not what they experienced was real.

Maybe something lures them to sleep and/or targets those that are already asleep. Either way, it lasts in real time as long as an average sleep. Also, sleep/waking up is your passage in and out of Wonderland, with help from our rabbit friend. Death would be a permanent escape.

I know that the idea of doing a plot like this was bounced around last year, and I had mailed the mods some ideas on it. If they say it's ok I can share what I sent them.

And Effigy, how could anyone but Sledgehammer be Hatter? I mean look at him!
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Okay, first thing I'm gonna say: I love dream worlds. Bizarre, surreal dreamscapes are one of my favourite things in fiction, so this immediately appeals to me. It also means I'm going to go straight into 'thinking very hard about the details of this and tossing the ideas forward' mode right now.

First of all, are we going to have elements mostly from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or did we maybe want to mix in parts from Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There? The mirror and chess motifs from Through the Looking Glass could make for some interesting ways for making a twisted version of New York, and provides a few more, albeit obscure, characters to draw from for ideas for dream versions of our own characters.

Now, getting more into the 'dream world' side of this, what about a population of Wonderland that aren't dreamers? Various NPC dream-characters who fill the city and make it harder for people to figure out who's another dreamer and who's just a figment. Not necessarily benevolent or malevolent, just wrapped up in their own weird Wonderland lives and eager to sweep dreamers up into them. Potentially getting attached to the more friendly ones could make for a bit of conflict over leaving...

Which moves to another point, which is how much a character could influence this dream world. Not consciously through their lucidity, but simply as part of them being thrust into it and the dream trying to keep them from wanting to leave. Little things, bits of familiarity that make it seem more inviting, like childhood rhymes or lyrics of favourite songs being recited by dream-characters, or animal-like beings hanging around of species the character finds endearing. After all, in the first book Alice, who loves cats, finds a guide in the Cheshire Cat, and in the second book Humpty Dumpty makes an appearance and has a conversation with Alice.

First of all, I love Alice in Wonderland. I love seeing the different takes on it and I think MRO-Wonderland would be potentially hilarious and awesome and fun to play out. The little thing to prepare for though is we have had other future plots/dream sequences and I think if we want to do a plot like this, we need to own it and make it unique. We have a lot of older members, and while it's awesome to have plots and events to get involved in, we don't want things to sound repetitive.

My suggestion is to try to think of a creative way to make this little 'wonderland' world. Try something different like the rabbit hole that has transported people into this warped version of New York, or have the statue of Alice in Wonderland in central part suddenly absorbing people and they are actually experiencing 'wonderland' there. Heck, even do the 'Through the Lookingglass' thing and touching an object transports them into this world. We can make an NPC character to explain the transportation but then it would centralize things and not leave random characters asleep on the sidewalk or another 'well, trapped in a dream' thing.

You could still tie it into the riots too if you wanted that way. Some mutant booby trapped the statue in central park, so any mutant within a certain radius is temporarily 'trapped' there. The flaw could be that when a character dies, they 'fall out' or something similar. Eventually you could track down the mutant who caused it and convince them to undo it, find out it was someone's attempt to counter the damage done by the riots, ect. You can still have the bizarre elements there, and no one would really be seriously injured when they're there because it'd be more their minds that are experiencing everything while they're trapped, not their bodies. Kind of like the statue keeps them in stasis.

IDK, something to think about.

So all of this talk about plots made me remember my idea for a cruise. I'm not sure if it interests anyone, but my plot bunnies(no relation to the March Hare) took hold of a strange yet curious idea. Since I'm not sure if you guys are interested in a sort of merge of the two, I'll leave you guys to decide.

To piggyback on Kiva, I do think combining both books would maximize the potential for ideas. And if we are going to have queen characters, Through the Looking Glass would add the Red and White Queens, as well as the other color-based royalty. Also, I love all of Kiva's ideas...just saying. ^_^

Personally, I really love the image of a white rabbit in a waistcoat hopping around NYC and transporting people into the dreamworld/illusion/separate pocket world/etc. I don't really have an opinion on whether it is a dream or not, but I do see Mati's point about the repetitiveness of dream-based plots here. Though if we made the dream and the circumstances around the dream distinct enough, I don't think it would be a problem.

I don't know if I actually said anything useful. But...yeah.

I was thinking it'd be sort of a mixture. Any Alice book or movie based on it is fair game. This will lead to some variety.

I am loving the ideas put out, and I'd be on board with any of Mati's ideas. I know I'm sort of the one spear-heading this, alongside 'Rena, but I want this plot to be fun and unique. I don't want the whole 'been there, done that' feeling, and I love to see involvement.

I like the idea of people being transported to this "New York Wonderland" personally.

*snort* Maybe the "white Rabbit" mutant transporting people there is some psychopath who's targeting his own kind--though if any of our non-mutants want in, they can have gone by mistake--and the only way to end this is to kill the rabbit?

Perhaps instead of killing the rabbit, you could steal a common plot from the X-Men comics and send a group of people to work through the rabbit's psychological issues while everyone else focuses on survival and/or fending off terrible forces of evil or something.

Just my two pennies worth.

...You have given me an idea, Liz. Not everyone will have the same theory as to how to get out of this. So, if this is the route we choose, we can have two different groups, one who wants to just waste the stupid rabbit and go home, and those who want to work through issues--then go home.

Speakin' as an oldie, the dream plots constantly amuse me, since it gives us a chance to turn our usual setting on its head for awhile without permanently changing everything (which is also really nice from the Mod perspective, as well). The Alice in Wonderland setting is much different than the other dreams we've run, so this is fun stuff. Personally, the shared "it's a dream" basis has never bothered me, since all the dreams themselves have been so very different.

Alas, I will probably be sitting this one out due to le free time, but I will follow the threads with great joy. <3

PS: White Rabbit running around the city and dropping people down holes == bonus <3<3<#. If people want to tie this to the Riots, this could also be someone who made a parallel world/dream to drop their own friends into to keep them safe during the Riots... but got stuck, or doesn't even know that the Riots are over yet, due to time moving differently. *tosses another idea in the mix*

Ooo. To further that train of thought, Ty, you could combine all the various escape ideas mentioned so far, including the killing-people-to-wake-them-up stuff. And perhaps every faction completes their individual goal at the same time and the Wonderland scenario ends, but everyone things they ended it, when nobody really knows how it happened.

And in case one group wants to fight people to get out, I'm sure plenty of people would be perfectly happy in Wonderland and refuse to return to the real world. This could potentially cause unlikely allies and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to temporarily completely change one's character, because what happens in Wonderland stays in Wonderland. And even if it isn't a dream at all, the bizarreness of the realm could possibly have psychological effects on everyone, making everyone believe they were hallucinating.

...I did not think of that. To save your friends from Wonderland...kill them there. I was thinking though, of all the 'escape' ideas: 'waking up'/drifting back to reality, dying, etc...the only way to leave and not come back is to die. Which of course could cause alot of drama here.

I mean think about it. Let's say someone tries to get a close friend out of Wonderland in this fashion, but it fails...That could cause some serious friction, even later down the road.

Now, I do love the idea of it ending, and different people think they did it, but no one really knows how it actually ended.

Okay, my ramblings are almost done, but I had one last idea that was mentioned earlier about the Queen of Hearts's favorite saying being "Off with [so and so's] head." There are 2 ways I see this character.

(1. She can be an NPC, who doesn't at all like the sudden flow of beings into her land, and thus wants to get rid of them. ALL of them.

(2. I'd mentioned characters who enter Wonderland favoring or looking like characters from the books/movies. With this, would come a part of that character's mindset. So if someone was the Queen...

An actual character that has the mindset of the Queen could be a hero. Killing everyone for their own good.