Defiantly agree With Lenna and Syn here, although I'm not above one or two aggressive negotiations.

Again I re-state how this opens involvement for the newer members who move behind the council members they like best and follow directions to work with order goals involving M, Faust pharm, and whatever Lenna is doing with Mondragon (personally i think she's making evil cookies). This way non-councilors can know about the main goals of the order without having to get too much in detail (unless they want to) but are still participating relevantly to the plot as a whole

Now that the change to council leadership has been put on the table, I would very much like to have threads with any willing Order members! Please contact me on the C-box, or send me a PM on this account to get the ball rolling!

This could also be a way into the Order for newer members who aren't officially part of the Order currently. As this new council is tested out then so to can the new recruits. *Smiles wickedly*

Hey Lenna, I'm an assassin too! That doesn't mean we can't fight in our own way. You could even use your bombs as a power play in order to call a truce.

I really don't see how any of the more powerful mutants would just settle for a council. I would think it would be more a necessity for the fact that they come to a stalemate in their battle.

Maybe, I just have a lot of pinned up energy. I just want to fight! If not, I'll be down in the training room, blowing off steam.

And Syn, send me a note if you want any help with the newbies.

Any chance Roach and I could get pulled into the "order in everything"? I would certainly be interested. We might have to double check with Roachie to get him to join,(if you guys would welcome the company), but it'd be nice to get consolidated.

I think that if enough of the order members would like to scrap it out with each other, then we can certainly facilitate it. Though , perhaps under a bit more of a controlled atmosphere? the order has a danger room after all and if we need to battle royale it out, to settle the pecking order we certainly can.

After the leadership issues are resolved (for the most part) then if needed we can break into cliques. and work angles and bicker as we work in a common direction or work against each other in a common direction.
so, it looks like some of the steps in the house divided might have to be augmented as we get the leadership handled. but the idea is still viable to those that are interested.

We’ve only heard from Lenna, Syn, Abyss, Roach, Seyta, Grim & Aurion, I’m going to see if we can’t get more members to sound off on whether they would want to participate in the house divided, or if there is less division in the house than anticipated. We still haven’t heard from more than half of our current members.

I’m going to start another thread and see if we can’t shake things up.

I can get the Abyssi into the thread within the next few posts. I just gave myself a fine setup line to invite them in under.

After that, I'll be starting a thread with Roachie Poo.

I'm a fan of the Order leaders pursuing their own agendas, which occasionally (or more than occasionally) put them at odds with one another. That could lead to all sorts of fun situations, both within the Order and with the X's and NYPD. As for out-and-out infighting, Calley would stay the heck away from that--he enjoys subtly in his backstabbings, and staying on everyone's good side, simultaneously. <3

Calley, I am a fan of your idea about the Order leaders butting heads. It sounds like a reasonable answer, and I will gladly surrender my position of violent rebellion if this comes to pass.

Also, I would love to have a chat with you (in-character) whenever you have time. I believe we could have a great time discussing whose back is the best to stab.

Finally, if anyone would like to have a thread where a group of underlings casually discusses things that they are not happy about because of the Order. Fill free to hit me up. I will probably be starting one soon.

Now Sir, does this look like a face that would actively plot sedition? *gives you the sweetest catboy eyes you ever did see*

Once this gets going, heck yes.

The Order, and the Kabal before it, have always intrigued me as factions because they lacked the rigid regulations and morals of the X-men and the NYPD. Put bluntly. Put bluntly, the bad guys play by their own rules, and they never have to be the same rules twice.

The downside of this paradigm however is that you often tend to attract those who prefer to play by no rules at all; Isabel and Aura are both prime examples. Combine this with the fact that the Order essentially lacks a common creed* beyond a basic discouragement of friendly fire incidents, and you should have no end for potential contention.

Having said this though, things have been relatively quiet for the Order, and this is due to both IC and OOC reasons. IC’ly the Order has Faust Pharmaceuticals (FP), and through them the M drug, which I am going to assume has become something of a cash cow, not to mention the plethora of other products FP is likely producing. Add to that the Order’s protection racket, which provides a continual reminder of why mutants should not be crossed, and you have situation where the Order leadership could easily say they have no need to prove themselves and simply stick with the status quo.

Zephyr of course would be in favour of this as it requires almost nothing of him and allows him to keep his sizeable retainer fee from Mondragon. However, I am well aware that there are a number of individuals who feel the present status quo has left the Order somewhat… stagnant, and wish to change things.

As one might imagine Zephyr would find such thoughts less than desirable, and while he is not impolitic enough to physically fight those who might one day sign his paycheck, he would be quite willing to embrace the idea of a council.

After all, how can any single individual claim to know what is best for the Order as whole, or for that matter, the entirety of mutant kind? Clearly, some form of democratic process is needed, if only at the top, so that potential projects and campaigns can be judged from a number of perspectives and thus deliberated on their logical merits, instead of being pushed through purely on thoughtless zeal.

And if certain proposals put forth by more, shall we say… ardent members, happen to be denied because they lack proper refinement or fail to achieve a suitable cost benefit, well… its all for the best really.
In short, if Zephyr notices a possible civil war brewing within the Order he will stand well clear. Once the dust has settled though he would be quite willing to encourage the idea of a council and would bear the heavy burden of a seat at the table, if only try and keep the Order the on a more moderate path and protect his finances.

That is what would happen IC’ly, OOC I have no idea if I’d ever be able to post at an adequate speed for any kind of group thread. Still, those are my thoughts on the matter.



*While I understand that a fair few Order members cling to mutant supremacy as their preferred weltanschauung, it is not true for the group as a whole. Zephyr honestly cares nothing about whether an individual possesses an X gene or not, he bases an individual’s value on how fit they are for a particular purposes. Granted this can mean that many times a mutant may be more effective than a human for certain tasks but it is not always true. Further, I see a slightly theological flaw in claiming that the Order stands for mutant supremacy when its current defacto leader, Lenna, could be called the very antithesis of a mutant.

Quick note to Orderlings regarding Lori/the initial Council formation, to get everyone on the same IC page:

From the Order's perspective, Lori will just stop coming to work one day. Soon after, her Co-Leader Lenna will organize the Council into being, and the new structure will take over (that's currently happening on screen, in Order in Everything, for those interested.)

Whether that transition is rough or smooth is up to the new Council... and all how all you lovely Orderlings react to the transition. Likewise, whether Lori's disappearance seems suspicious, worrying, or doesn't even hit your character's radar is entirely up to you.

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