ok, im still working on this idea. it still needs a lot of developing.

Seems we need some more villains, right?
So, with the sentinel attack happening at the moment, i started thinking about the possibilities of my characters psyche.

If anyone has any ideas i could sure use them, regarding something to make Axel get really, really, REALLY mad, hopefully at the x-men.

I have one that could be fiddled with a bit. Could it be arranged that Axel get put under a trance or something
um, and um, well the general thing is that, he's put into a virtual reality or something, so what he thinks is happening isn't happening, andwhat he thinks is happening should be something really tormenting, like, i dunno, maybe a loved one being beaten to death, abused, etc, by what he thinks is the x-men.
And then he wakes up somewhere, (preferably a beach) maybe next to dead body.. and feels a bit dazed for a bit, then starts to remember what happened before he passed out (what he was tricked into believing was happening). Perhaps he sees the body next to him and recognises it as the loved one.
Then as the false events start to flood back to him his breath quickens, and his blood starts to boil (figure of speech, sort of.) and rage pumps through his veins.
He stands up, looks at the pinky-orange dawn sky and in his minds eye he sees his poor loved one being tortured -

(yes! dats the one. that'l do it!!)

- and broods over the (false) scenes going through his mind, slowly losing more and more of himself to his darker side, feeling a growing sense of loss - but not the normal sad sense of loss, the dark, forbidden, feared sense of loss that no one wants to see in another person, the loss sense of a person with nothing left but the empty darkness. No compassion left, no love, no mercy, no instinct of self-preservation, just blunt, black, rage.

With all the healthy parts of the soul tortured and tormented into nothing, all thats left is the part of a man that people attribute to the devil.

With darkness now controlling him, his dark side very securely in control, his blood circulating so fiercely through his body that his eyes turn a very unnerving blood red, Axel turns and gets his bearings (figures out where the heck he is now) and chooses some objectives to begin his terror spreading presence.
Walking along the empty beach, across the cold moist sand, he goes over dark plans in his mind.


And yea, thats a pretty good start. Thats the sort of thing i'm meaning. I just need a good reason for this plot to start. I'll probably do it just after the attack the mansion thing, because I could use whitmore as the torturer. OOO! I can get captured, along with an NPC i can introduce!! Yay for inspiration!! lol.

So yea, if this goes ahead Axel will become a baddie until further notice, and until some of his rage dies down he will be temporarily a lot stronger (if thats ok with tricity, yknow, a plot related temporary set of stats much better than usual) and he will go about causing mayhem in some random cities, lol y'know - digging up streets with his power and of telekinesis, and killing people by squashing them with a golem fist; debris; or by encasing them in an airtight pod of scrapmetal. And smashing buildings and stuff if he feels like it, and in general destroying quite a lot in a mysteriously purposeful way. Then later gathering a lot of the scrap metal left by the demolition and lugging it of into the wilderness for an unknown reason... *cue the sinister lightning*




So, what does everyone think? I apologise in advance for Axel's temporary boost of power, (im hoping that no one gets to defeat him until later in the plot)
Does this seem like an ok idea tricity? You'll get a baddie out of it and the boost of power will only be temporary, and EXCLUSIVE TO AXELS DARKSIDE so normal Axel aint gonna benefit none from his nefarious deeds and evil determination, lol

the whole power boost and not going to be beaten until later thing is definitely negotiable, after all, this plot idea is still in the "fiddle with it" stage.

It sounds, atleast to me, something to be worked with Axel. I know I am willin' to explore it.

Me too. And I have an addition. You know that Jaguar, or Neal Jacorski, now that he remembers his real name, has an evil alter ego that could take controll of his body. Maybe whitmore captures Jaguar and uses one of those steriod collors from the old lab (Ask Emerald about those.) to bring his evil side out. And then his evil side is more than willing to obey whitmore, because he plans to kill him in the end, and whitmore provides a structure to his need to kill all of the X-men. He too will have a temporary power boost, an Jaguar will be a prisoner in his own mind. Eventually he will meet Axel and they will collaberate and pretty much go and attack the mansion, while it's still weak from whitmores attack. Maybe kill a few Npc students that we just make up for the purpose of having someone to kill without getting rid of any important Npc. The the X-men team, back from getting the stone, tries to pretty much fend us off, untill Cassiel can get inside your head and tell you what really happened. You then snap out of it and hold me still while Cassiel kills Jaguars alter ego, and Jaguar comes back out, unconcious.

When he wakes up and finds out about all of the people he killed, he is devastated, refusing to come out of his room to eat or even drink. And then maybe either cassiel or Fade gets him to realize that it wasn't him who killed them, it was his alter ego.


Here are two Npc's I thought of.

Name:Heather Relgan
Age: 10
Power: Can stretch any part of her body, like mister fantastic.

Name: Thomson Jake Arbatury
Age: 18
Power: Ability to make telekinetic timebombs that detonate with a kindof explosion, without the heat.

What do you think???

Sounds quite interesting, but I have a few disagreements.
Dark Axel is not likely to team up, he is more interested in settling grudges than co-operating. I guess it could happen though, but he has things to do first.
I haven't actually given much thought to how Axel will return, I suppose its gotta happen. *starts to think about that*
I'm actually getting a lot of ideas about what plots could link on to this one. I have no intention of linking it to whitmore, other than using him as a trigger, and maybe something to smash. (to be honest i think whitmore is getting a little bit old)

So honestly, the game plan of Dark Axel is a brief reign of terror. Anyone got any ideas for evil deeds?


Hmm, im gonna scratch out the whole "thinks it was the x-men", because I think torture of him and a loved one or two in the same room is plenty enough to send him waaay over the edge.

So, lets work on this. I dont need much more for the trigger, a self sacrifice and a few well placed NPC's will do the trick. I've got the change pretty well thought out, i guess now all i need is the aftermath part, and an idea of hw long this will last. I'm hoping for a period of great power in Dark Axel, going around doing seemingly random evil things, that are actually part of his own dark agenda, and then later on his power can drain back down a fair bit. Now why would that happen? hmm. Thats another one for the brain storm.

Overview:
When the sentinel fights are nearly over, Axel and some convinient NPC that he cares about a lot (any volunteers?) get captured by the remaining sentinels and taken away. The boss of the sentinels had made a deal with whitmore, who for some reason wanted these two mutants (Axel and the NPC (any ideas on the npc??)) and turns them over to him. Then whitmore tortures us for some reason (i need a reason) and Axel blacks out near the end of it. He then wakes up on a beach near New York.


I think i need a list of whats needed so I can be clear.

1. trigger is just about sorted out.
2. I need ideas about who the NPC could be
3. I need a reason for Whitmore to torture the two of them
4. Once Dark Axel is up and about, his main purpose is re-introducing Whitmore to his maker. But don't get him wrong, he's not good, he just has a rather large bone to pick with Whitmore.
5. Anyone have ideas of attempted apocalypse? I'm considering fiddling a bit to cut that out because its starting to seem silly.
6. If Dark Axel becomes a standard villain (unlikely to return to good), then his power is going to have to drop again somewhat, can't have a super-powered villain running around forever now can we? So, any ideas on that?
7. During his super-powered state, Dark-Axel retains one grudge, involving the cause of his appearance. So, basically, if its ok with Lady J, i intend to have Dark Axel finish off Whitmore for her.
8. Evil Team ups? Hmm, i guess. I'd like Dark Axel to have SOME company . So Jaguar, negotiations are still open, but one thing, because of the change in my plans, i'm not up for "an attack on mansion then cassiel gets us back to normal". Maybe you, but Axel is going on holiday. Dark Axel is here to stay for awhile. (refer to 6.)
9. (related to 6.) perhaps Dark Axel can revert to Axel's attribute stats once he has lost his boost from his original rage. Would be nice if he kept a considerable boost of Intimidation though, (that makes sense right?)

I'll leave you to chew on that for awhile. I'm looking forward to seeing what Lady J thinks.

I see your point axel. I guess I wasn't very clear. I meant to say that they each have a seperate reign of terror for a while, and maybe when Axel blacks out he gets a glimps of Jaguars alter ego, i think ill call him Hic. Yes, his name will be Hic. And then Axel somehow connects Jaguar to his torture or whatever, and decides he is one of the people he must eliminate. They fight for a little bit, and then realize that they both want to kill the same people, and band together temporalily. Axel and Hic make an evil agenda, and seperate to fufill their part of it, say, collecting a certain device held by the military, or whatnot. They then get back together and make whatever you were going to make. Hic then betrays axel and sabotashes the device and goes on his own evil agenda, wich is pretty much make it to his home to kill his parents, killing everyone on the way. Throw in the swat team and a few giant robots and your evil reign of terror will be at a nice boil. He will then go around randomly eating people for a while, then when Hic goes after Fade, Jaguar breaks out and kindof gets seperated from Hic. Jaguar is in his human form, and won't be able to transform untill he kills Hic, who is in his Jaguar form. When he does he is rid of his evil side forever. (Finally) Or so he thinks....

now that sounds better!
Much better *thumbs up*

Yep. Lets take it to Lady J.

hold on, not done, yET.
This list is not finished.

1. trigger is just about sorted out.

2. I need ideas about who the NPC could be

3. I need a reason for Whitmore to torture the two of them

4. Once Dark Axel is up and about, his main purpose is re-introducing Whitmore to his maker. But don't get him wrong, he's not good, he just has a rather large bone to pick with Whitmore. (sorted out basically)

5. Anyone have ideas of attempted apocalypse? I'm considering fiddling a bit to cut that out because its starting to seem silly. (will cut that out.)

6. If Dark Axel becomes a standard villain (unlikely to return to good), then his power is going to have to drop again somewhat, can't have a super-powered villain running around forever now can we? So, any ideas on that?

7. During his super-powered state, Dark-Axel retains one grudge, involving the cause of his appearance. So, basically, if its ok with Lady J, i intend to have Dark Axel finish off Whitmore for her.

8. Evil Team ups? Hmm, i guess. I'd like Dark Axel to have SOME company . So Jaguar, negotiations are still open, but one thing, because of the change in my plans, i'm not up for "an attack on mansion then cassiel gets us back to normal". Maybe you, but Axel is going on holiday. Dark Axel is here to stay for awhile. (refer to 6.) (sorted, negotiations closed sort of)

9. (related to 6.) perhaps Dark Axel can revert to Axel's attribute stats once he has lost his boost from his original rage. Would be nice if he kept a considerable boost of Intimidation though, (that makes sense right?)

A list. Good idea, heres mine:

1. Convince axel to let him into the storyline
2. Think of a way to get evil Jaguar out
3. Name evil Jaguar
4. Make profiles for his parents (NPC's)
5. Decide how long he will be on his own before and after he meets Dark Axel. (Sort-of done, need to ask axel, over 3 months, at least before he meets axel, and then like 5 afterwards.)
6. Decide how he will get back to his normal self, and get rid of Hic.
7. Get everyone involved to agree, maybe even get this to be a Major-Minor plot.


And thats it.

Cool list Jaguar.
I've been working on mine a bit.
I've worked out the trigger (its still open to improvement but now there is something to work with)
I've worked out the NPC also, and the reason that Whitmore has them tortured.


1:Trigger
During fight with sentinels, Axel and a comrade who was there already but hadn't been mentioned get captured and taken to whitmore who tortures them and stuff. Then Axel blacks out, and later wakes up next to the dead comrade on a beach at dawn.

2: NPC (the comrade)
During the battle against the sentinels, Jack selflessly saves Axel's life.
Name:
Jack Harlen

Age:
22

Powers:
Jumping really high using his transformed legs. His Legs become extremely dense but mainly powerful, and he can shapeshift them a little.
This means that he can make them really heavy if he wants so he can jump high, then come crashing down on the target with more force than a couple of bull elephants concentrated on the small point where he lands.
Creates shockwaves in this way usually.
(cons: his stealth abilities are non-existent, because his legs are almost always so heavy he makes a lot of noise moving around. Also, can't swim and has a stronger than usual aversion to quicksand (i wonder why...))

personality: Boastful but very courageous and patriotic, is willing to die protecting his country.

History at the mansion: turned up a few weeks after Axel did, and they have become casual friends.

3: Reason for torture
An effort to get information (where have they put the stone or something like that) and also just a sadistic love of mutants pain because he hates them.

Good list. I have an addition to mine.

8. Make profile for NPC swat dude who captures Jaguar


4: Made the profiles.

Name: Jacob Jacorski
Relation: Father
Age: 69
Mutation: None

Name: Hannah Jacorski
Relation: Mother
Age: 65
Mutation: None

Name: John Maltarey
Relation: Best Freind
Age: 36
Mutation: Is a contortionist, although this is not an X-Men mutation it is important to remember.

5. Decided. 3 months before, 6 months after. If its okay with you.

7. Still need to contact Fade, although I think me and you pretty much got this worked out.

So yeah, I don't think My list could get much better. Well yeah, it could. We'll probably just have to get Lady J's permission and WALA!! We are done.

I just need to figure out how Dark Axel's powers drop later, and thats it apart from Lady J's input.
Cool!

Scratch that addition on my list. Why do I need to make his profile? Just remember that he is a higher ranking dude than the normal soldier.

I think that you should be the one to ask Lady J, as it was your Idea. I'll ask Fade, although that doesn't really affect you.

Will do.

ya, sounds very interesting, I was just thinking, maybe Fade could try and stop one of them and get hurt, nothing TOO serious, but enough to a point where I will roleplay her in a different manner, in more of an injured and fragile way, I think that would be so interesting. Sound good?